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Meeks Bay Stakeholder Forum Mtg #5 - Shared screen with speaker view
sejamerson
43:29
The bike path realignment could cause some serious safety issues between people walking toward beach and bikers going too fast through the site.
Julie Hutchinson
43:57
Susan is correct.
Ashley Sibr USFS
44:12
There is a separate alignment along the highway for through-bikers
sejamerson
44:56
Alternative 2 bike path alignment looks better to me.
Rebecca Cremeen (TRPA)
45:44
please make sure to mute your microphone if you are not speaking. Thanks
Charlie Ferris
48:15
bike path should not go through the resort, should possibly include spurs that dead end at beach area to avoid bike/pedestrian conflicts, injury.
Julie Hutchinson
01:07:10
Does the scenic quality include looking at all the boats that will be at the pier? How will that boat activity alter the safety of non-motorized use of the bay and swim area?
Julie Hutchinson
01:10:47
What have boaters done since the marina and ramp have been closed? Has there been a study to determine if there is in fact any impact limiting boating?
Jennifer Quashnick, Friends of the West Shore
01:16:38
Will the DEIS/R examine the demand for non-motorized vs. motorized by # of people who desire each?
Jennifer Quashnick, Friends of the West Shore
01:18:06
This may be for post-break discussion item, but what is the opportunity to mix/match features in the current alternatives before a preferred alternative is selected?
Charlie Ferris
01:44:48
all the cabins at the resort have multiple deferred maint. issues. Moving them seems like an environmental nightmare.
Kirk Robinson
01:46:24
Is it a tear down and replace or is it pick up and move?
Charlie Ferris
01:47:17
Tearing them down would cost the resort bottom line quite a bit. New cabins: same environmental issues?
Ashley Sibr USFS
01:49:42
When we build new we can use new technologies with updated utilities, which allows us to build with a lot lower environmental impact. The cabins being located across the roadway and out of the shorezone would eliminate most of the existing environmental damage being done by the cabins
Charlie Ferris
01:50:19
New cabins equal higher costs to rent?
Ashley Sibr USFS
01:51:17
The permit structure does not include a typical "rental fee", it is based on revenue
Kirk Robinson
01:51:54
Try to keep some open space throughout the area. Don't try to fill everything in with more camping or parking.
Charlie Ferris
01:51:55
It is already expensive except in the off season. Would it get more expensive?
Ashley Sibr USFS
01:53:43
Fees would depend on the amenities provided and the local market demand; we would not have that information until the design for the cabins is finalized
Julie Hutchinson
01:58:03
The north beach is much more accessible with parking at beach and already a walkway to water.
Julie Hutchinson
02:09:30
There are currently rental Kayaks on the South Beach at Meeks. This takes up about 75 feet of the beach and is a bright yellow eyesore as they are there 24/7.
Laura Patten-League
02:12:46
Yes, we would be interested in long term paddlecraft storage.
Kirk Robinson
02:13:00
I think my sister would like to have long term storage for kayaks.
Charlie Ferris
02:13:09
Long term paddle craft storage for local homeowners should not take precedent over campers/day users/resort renters.
Rhiana Jones
02:13:53
I am not interested in having long term paddle craft storage, this is not necessary.
Julie Hutchinson
02:14:04
We would definitely be interested in long term paddle-craft storage. Should be annual passholders and even with a cost to have storage space.
Kirk Robinson
02:15:53
The idea of a through route (follow the highway) and a business route (meander through the resort) appeals to me. The real issue is the southern exit.
Julie Hutchinson
02:16:28
I think this should have been two questions. Support Expansion? Support reconfiguration?
Kirk Robinson
02:17:33
(reprise) Try to keep some open space throughout the area. Don't try to fill everything in with more camping or parking.
Rhiana Jones
02:18:44
I agree with Kirk
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:19:02
Thank you Kirk
Julie Hutchinson
02:20:04
The parking lot is not an issue and it actually provides a nice break between beach and campground without cars even visible. The traffic and noise will increase dramatically and create problems for campers if you move the day use parking. Leave parking as it is, and where it is.
Julie Hutchinson
02:28:48
Some of the amenities already exist.
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:30:35
Just an FYI for the group, many of these amenities would not require a NEPA analysis to install. Large items such as showers and bathrooms would require NEPA. Things like picnic tables, trash cans, etc. are site amenities that we add and remove as needed for the site. I bring this up because you will most likely see a list of typical items that might be at the day use area, and we would highlight any that are not typical
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:31:00
in the draft document that will be released
sejamerson
02:32:26
I'm here Rebecca. :)
sejamerson
02:33:13
I think you have it there.
Julie Hutchinson
02:33:43
Interpretive signage great idea and should include Washoe History, Resort History, and environmental. Maybe instead of a bike path it is a trail for interpretive education and all walking.
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:33:56
nothing is every totally UV resistant, but we try to get high quality signs when we install them
sejamerson
02:35:08
No boat acessible bar!!!
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:35:16
related to any restrictions on boaters, there are universal rules for the lake that we cannot change
Ashley Sibr USFS
02:35:32
such as the distance from shoreline they can go
Charlie Ferris
02:35:36
Rules are only as good as enforcement is applied. Otherwise they are useless.
sejamerson
02:37:16
Load music and massive shade structures are really unpleasant for other visitors. Maybe delineate a "pop up zone" 30' behind the surf line.
sejamerson
02:37:35
Loud
Charlie Ferris
02:44:11
Is Rebecca with TRPA?
Adam Lewandowski, Ascent
02:44:50
Yes, Rebecca is with TRPA
V Ortiz, TRPA
02:48:32
Just a note, the July Governing Board meeting will be held on Thursday, 7/29. Typically the meetings are on Wednesday, but we have a board retreat the Wednesday before the meeting.
V Ortiz, TRPA
02:49:28
Meeting materials will be posted here by the end of the day: https://www.trpa.gov/meeting-materials/
Rebecca Cremeen (TRPA)
02:51:01
Meeks Bay was featured in the newspaper Tahoe In Depth. If you haven't read the article https://www.trpa.gov/tahoe-in-depth/
Julie Hutchinson
02:51:16
Could we meet in person for the next Forum Meeting? am still trying to understand if Boaters have the whole lake and they want to be on the water, what is the purpose of a pier in Meeks Bay? Meeks is already at capacity from land and boaters have access to other lake areas. There has been no discussion on how many boats the pier would serve, is it overnight mooring, how long could they be there? Frankly the motorized activity was added in without any information or input from the forum or public on the intended use of the pier. I think this remains a huge issue.