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Public Meeting on ConnectMaine's Draft Objectives for its Infrastructure Grant Program - Shared screen with gallery view
Maggie Osthues
14:49
Here is the meeting chat!
Maggie Osthues
18:50
Poll: https://pollev.com/cbi297
town of Swan's Island Sonny Sprague
19:42
Sonny Sprague, Selectman, Town of Swan's Island,
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
20:01
Kat Taylor, Argyle Township
Gabe McPhail, Town of Vinalhaven
20:21
Gabe McPhail, Town of Vinalhaven Planning Department
Galen Weibley
20:29
City of Presque Isle
William Rosenberg
20:46
Town of Mount Vernon Broadband Commitee
Stephenie MacLagan
20:49
Stephenie, ConnectMaine, for quality rural life!
James Gibson
20:55
James Gibson, Selectman Town of Alexander and Board Member for Downeast Broadband Utility
Jonathan Albrecht
20:55
Town of Penobscot Internet Comm.
Andrea Powers
20:56
Andrea L. Powers Town of Fort Fairfield, Town Manager
Lisa Shaw
21:00
State of Maine/Maine State Library/Library development
Carlos Barrionuevo
21:02
Carlos Barrionuevo, Georgetown Broadband Committee
Dena Libner
21:04
City of Portland
Mark Ouellette
21:08
Mark Ouellette, Axiom
Alan Hinsey
21:23
I'm with LCI Fiber Optic network
Joel Katz
21:23
Joel Katz, Penobscot Broadband Committee
Tracy Scheckel
21:25
q1 -- 'OTHER - ALL OF THE ABOVE
Chip Emery
21:26
Chip Emery, Chebeague Island
Janet McKenney-Maine State Library
21:26
Maine State Library
Kathleen Rybarz
21:31
Elected town official
Kendra Jo Grindle - Island Institute
21:31
Kendra Jo Grindle, Island Institute
Thomas Kittredge
21:40
City of Belfast
Kerem Durdag
21:42
Kerem Durdag, GWI
dawn gallagher
21:47
Dawn Gallagher: Consultant for MaineCare Services (Medicaid Agency) and Telehealth and Legal HealthCare Services; plus school Board Director
Maxwell Johnstone
21:49
Town of Waldoboro/ Midcoast Economic Development District
Brendan Lugossy
21:49
Affiliation - impact investing fund focused on broadband investments in low income & rural areas
Sarah Strickland
21:55
Sarah Strickland, Greater East Grand Region
Jeffrey Nevins
21:58
Jeff Nevins, Consolidated Communications
dawn gallagher
22:17
healthcare access and education are big issues
George Kerper
22:23
Searsport Broadband Committee Chair
Jerrod Crouse
22:39
Jerrod Crouse, Versant Power
Thorn Dickinson
22:41
NECEC Project ($10m fund for grants)
Mike Ray
22:56
Mike Ray Lincolnville Broadband Committee
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
23:01
Affiliation: Chair, Town of China Broadband Committee.
Carol Coles
23:06
Carol Coles. School Board RSU9 Mt Blue Starks has serious deficits that are URGENT. Is DSL considered Broadband….please define for all.
Bob Kurek
23:14
Bob Kurek Selectman Palermo Maine
Brian Lippold - Casco Bay Advisors
23:39
Brian Lippold - Casco Bay Advisors
Nick Battista
24:03
Unserved = less than 25/3 mbps
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
25:16
Why are you still referencing the 25/3 obsolete service level as being significant?
Stephenie MacLagan
26:03
Doug: 25/3mbps isn't referenced as significant, but that is the current way that unserved areas are defined
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
26:15
Nick, do you differentiate between Unserved and UNDERserved?
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
26:35
Why is that still being used? Everyone acknowledges that it is too slow!
Walter Riseman
26:45
Walter Riseman - Harrison Broadband Committee
Nick Battista
26:53
Underserved is a function of the number of households that are unserved in a given area
Clinton King
27:36
not affiliated but interested in getting involved, Dover-Foxcroft / Piscatiquis County
Larry Bell - Litchfield
27:36
Larry Bell from the Town of Litchfield Broadband Committee.
Kenneth Capron
28:07
Now imagine the headline if we fail
Joan Orr
28:09
Joan Orr, member of Rome Broadband Exploratory Cte
Maggie Osthues
28:17
Poll: https://pollev.com/cbi297
Kenneth Capron
28:25
Ken Capron, MicroRail
Elaine Higgins
28:34
very slow internet for the town of Freedom & Palermo. I am a selectman for Freedom and zoom meetings are hard to deal with.
town of Swan's Island Sonny Sprague
28:51
Affordable
Chris Backman
29:07
rural accessibility
James Gibson
29:24
Finally
Mike Ray
29:33
catching-up
Beth cohen
29:35
Here in Liberty it is difficult to keep out internet going on a consistent basis
Katie Chapman
29:43
reliable
Elaine Higgins
29:59
more infastructer for all better lines to carry the singles
Kenneth Capron
30:09
e pluribus connectem
Lisa Shaw
30:22
@kenneth - Love that :D
john gibbons, Union
30:30
Maine has become a center for entrepreneurial startups whose activities were greatly facilitated by broadband access . . . video conferencing, telepresence
James Gibson
30:40
connected
Carol Coles
32:28
lease define term broadband as well as ISP acronym
Carlos Barrionuevo
32:52
ISP is Internet Service Provider
Kenneth Capron
33:06
"forward looking" - where do we want to be in 2025, 2035, 2050 and 2100Let's not waste money on something that is going to change in 5 years anyway
Mark McPherson
33:21
Broadband = Wide Path
Carlos Barrionuevo
33:26
So anyone that provides internet service to you at any speed - Consolidated, satellite etc
Carol Coles
35:52
What is symmetrical service?
Lisa Shaw
36:12
@Carol - same speed uploading as downloading
Carlos Barrionuevo
36:34
same speed up and down. Only possible with fiber.
Lisa Shaw
36:35
Think of I-95 north and south bound lanes versus narrow dirt road
Carlos Barrionuevo
37:27
or a two lane road north and a narrow deer path south
Theresa Doherty
37:28
Especially like the phrasing which eliminates data caps, (including tokens, throttling)
Lisa Shaw
37:46
@Carlos - yes! :D
Kenneth Capron
37:54
Rural deployment is most affordable when many services are provided at the same time.
Carlos Barrionuevo
38:07
Regional Equity - is there room for proactive help to areas that are not submitting applications and in danger of being underrepresented?
Theresa Doherty
38:29
Are companies such as Starlink being considered?
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
38:59
@Theresa Yes! None of these metering techniques, please!
Maggie Osthues
39:14
Poll: https://pollev.com/cbi297
Kenneth Capron
39:29
Even Starlink is susceptible to weather and EM interruptions
Clinton King
39:55
@theresa agreed I get throttled every month since working remote
Elizabeth Cooper, CBI
40:10
Poll: https://pollev.com/cbi297
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
41:41
Try ALT-TAB to find hidden windows
Theresa Doherty
43:08
Ironically I get a message saying my service is too slow!
Janet McKenney-Maine State Library
43:31
Theresa, yes ironic!
Kenneth Capron
44:09
If you are working remote and getting throttled, either you or your employer may be able to get the provider to waive that throttling. Just ask.
Stephenie MacLagan
44:27
If your service is too slow or unstable for zoom, you're welcome to call back in using dial information provided to you with the original zoom link.
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
44:33
Can someone on the board define “future proof” please?
Clinton King
44:58
simply put the ISP refused and said its impossible to do.
Gabe McPhail, Town of Vinalhaven
45:11
I’m surprised that Digital Equity and Inclusion ranked 4th. Would have thought that would be higher…
Carlos Barrionuevo
45:54
Gabe, I really think that is part of community visions. it is for me
Brian Dudley, Town of Long Island
45:55
why is regional equity so low? strikes me that is important in a state with low penetration especially in our rural and island communities.
Gabe McPhail, Town of Vinalhaven
46:50
Carlos, I guess it depends on who is doing the visioning… :\
Theresa Doherty
46:53
They are all important, difficult to prioritize
Kenneth Capron
47:16
future proof would be a multi-fiber deployment to handle future expansion
Sarah Strickland
47:21
The ranking will become clearer for me when we are talking about specific projects or examples.
Phil Devlin - Harrison
47:42
The divide between the served and unserved parts of our town is probably the most-discussed broadband issue across town.
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
48:11
Hold the spacebar down to unmute while talking
Kenneth Capron
49:02
The up/down ratio should be dynamic in response to demand
James Gibson
49:52
Security networks need a viable uploads speed
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
50:21
Upload speed File size Time to upload10 Mbps 1 GB 15 minutes100 Mbps 1 GB 1 minute 30 seconds300 Mbps 1 GB 30 seconds
Janet McKenney-Maine State Library
52:31
Symmetrical is very important for future proofing.
Joel Katz
52:44
16 County statewide plan needed. iD need and prioritize accordingly.
Carlos Barrionuevo
52:56
It is incredibly important for working from home
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
53:08
Is VDSL considered adequate, “future proof” for residential areas at 52/16Mbps? Most people have telephone lines and gets fiber to the town
Maggie Osthues
55:16
Link: https://pollev.com/cbi297
Carol Coles
55:49
It is very difficult to get out of poll = had to go back in from email link…..
Gil Harris
56:22
Gil How does town owned brodband fit into objectivesHarris-limerick select board chair-
Kenneth Capron
57:04
future proof might be terabyte throughput capacity
Kenneth Capron
01:01:51
No one should settle for anything less than fiber and gigabit service
Sue McClintock
01:01:55
Remote learning and remote working are key for families right now, so separating the education objective from the economic objective is a bit artificial; they're quite intertwined.
Joel Katz
01:02:01
COVID relief from Federal Govt may include huge dollars for BB. how shall we get our share?
Janet McKenney-Maine State Library
01:02:02
There are so many people in Maine running businesses at their homes.
Lisa Shaw
01:02:22
+1 Janet Mckenney
Kenneth Capron
01:03:39
It is a good time to prepare for a stimulus and shovel ready projects
Jeff Martin
01:04:26
Has there been any discussions with isp's on how long will DSL be supported
Janet McKenney-Maine State Library
01:04:48
Committing to symmetrical and higher bandwidth will attract more businesses into Maine and work at home opportunities.
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:08:46
Unorganized Territories, who are among the unserved, are limited by LUPC as to what businesses can be established. Better to focus on what actually can be done to accommodate as many people as possible now, with scalability as a future possibility if needed. Each area has specific needs and one solution does not fit everyone.
Maxwell Johnstone
01:10:24
The same can be said in Waldoboro about unserved pockets. I have a road with elementery school kids and new home occupations that is not served by any provider (minus cell data), but there are only 7 of them. While getting 1GB of service would be great, many don't even have the basic 25/3 service
Clinton King
01:10:48
yes thank you John for highlighting that. For me though in town is considered served much of my town is only served by cell service, satellite, or 768KBPS DSL
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
01:11:21
Our town has 88% Broadband (Spectrum) but the remaining 12% are either unserved or Underserved In our town, that is 540 people! We are looking at community broadband because in the long term our people will overall pay less.... Again I love the ISLESBORO $30/mo Fiber to every home... vs Spectrum which costs ~ $70/month....
Maggie Osthues
01:11:34
online survey on ConnectMaine’s website: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ConnectMaine
Butler Smythe
01:12:08
I very strongly believe doing cheap band-aids to this is wrong and a waste of any government funds. Fiber at 100/100 - at a minimum - is paramount and to everyone. We need to think at least 10 years from now or we’ll be doing this again. Our tax base will disappear if we don’t think ahead. People will leave or never show up to live and work and retire.
Maggie Osthues
01:12:14
Stakeholder Engagement page on ConnectMaine’s website: https://www.maine.gov/connectme/grants/engagement
Maggie Osthues
01:12:21
ConnectMaine also welcomes input from stakeholders and others interested in this process, by emailing Connect.ME@maine.gov with the subject heading Infrastructure Grants. Please submit comments on the proposed objectives by November 13.
Lisa Shaw
01:13:17
+1 Butler Smythe
Jonathan Albrecht
01:13:24
My reaction from this is that a community request driven grant process will produce an inefficient, not future-proofed, patch-work solution and will waste lots of money.
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
01:13:34
+1 Butler Smythe
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
01:14:14
+1 Jonathan Albrecht
Sue McClintock
01:15:47
+1 Jonathan Albrecht.
Kenneth Capron
01:15:59
What timeline will the grants cover?
Sue McClintock
01:16:33
A plan or pathway for connecting all the new bits and pieces and converting it into a public utility would make the most sense.
Mark McPherson
01:16:40
How much is considered a small grant
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
01:16:55
+1 Sue McClintock
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
01:17:00
+2 Butler Smythe
Kenneth Capron
01:17:24
Given the size of my expected proposal, I won't be able to start for 18 - 24 months.
Sarah Strickland
01:18:07
Is there any state level conversation about broadband becoming a public utility?
town of Swan's Island Sonny Sprague
01:18:32
This is in fact a utility. Broadband is not a luxury, it is a necessity. It is not saving the State of Maine money, but begin the foundation of a statewide communication vice similar to telephones/etc.
Peggy Schaffer, ConnectMaine
01:18:32
That is currently allowed in Law
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:18:37
Give the initial $6,725 exploratory planning directly to the community, not the ISP’s. Open up grants to all parties who can come up with a feasible affordable plan, not just to the local ISP. Award the final phases to the best bid. Otherwise we end up with the same ISP we’ve always had with not choices. This drives up the cost of service for customers and no incentive for the ISP to improve service.
Carol Coles
01:18:52
Towns with no cable now and forever (due to distance between homes) are limited now to DSL….what is possible?
William Findeisen
01:19:22
Bill Findeisen
Kenneth Capron
01:19:58
It would help to have source data from existing broadband - such as cost per household or cost per mile, etc
Peggy Schaffer, ConnectMaine
01:20:23
We don't have access to that data
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:21:04
average cost of laying fiber at $27,000 per mile.
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:21:26
http://www.ustelecom.org/dig-once-a-solution-for-rural-broadband/
Nick Battista
01:22:20
https://www.islandinstitute.org/priorities/building-resilient-communities/broadband/ scroll down for the community planning guide
Joel Katz
01:22:21
please consider the strain on Town budgets as the ramification of COVID are realized over the next several budget cycles. less revenue and greater need ahead?
Lisa Shaw
01:24:42
Castiel from Supernatural!
Kenneth Capron
01:24:50
Seems like we need to figure out 1st how to reduce the cost per mile for fiber from $27000 to $3000 or less.
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:26:19
Allow non ISP’s to bid not the contract
Kenneth Capron
01:26:29
So can we put the bond money into playing the lottery
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:26:40
The ISP get the funding and then hire subcontractors. Cut out the middle man
MaineBob OConnor | China Broadand
01:27:20
We have retained help from consltants... Mission Broadband has been very helpful is us creating an RFP for any provider..
Kenneth Capron
01:27:52
You have done a great job. Thank you!!!!
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:28:55
“Allow non ISP’s to bid on the installation contract." Sorry for the typo ; )
Kat Taylor-Argyle Twp.
01:30:38
Btw- I am attending this meeting on a 8/1Mbps connection with no lag time.
Doug Chamberlin, Belfast
01:32:16
Good idea to make use of CBI!
James Gibson
01:32:47
Thank You for facilitating